(August 9th, 2002, 2:29 pm)
(August 10th, 2002, 1:59 am)
I just have to laugh when I see things like these, not because it would violate any laws of physics (because that we cannot know), but because of the GLARING logical errors.
Consider this, first for travel back in time:
If it is possible to travel to the past, you would make an impact on the enviroment at that time. Now what if that impact would prevent you from being born, what would happen then?
Timetravel forwards in time is more logical, until you get to the part of returning, then you end up with a slightly modified version of the problem above:
Lets say you bring along a computer from 100 years into the future, and when you get it here you start to manufacture it and sell the technology. What happens then with the technology 100 years from now, is it supposed to be at a stand-still?
Don't understand why there are so many (so called) learned people who clings to the (mis)conception of time being something which is not abstract.. Perhaps it's just a subconcious hope of the elusive "young forever" wish, after all if time exists then it must be possible to alter it.
No, if you ask me time is simply something which we humans have made up in order to explain the planets movement around the sun coupled with molycular changes (also known as aging).
(August 10th, 2002, 5:56 am)
what i find obscenely hilarious about this is not any logical inconsistency in the whole idea of time travel itself (there's a thread about this in the rough drafts forum) but the amazing 'perfect scam' thing they've got going there.
it's like those 'cryogenics' places where they freeze you after you die -- for that matter, it's also like organised religion -- they assume absolutely no responsibility for what happens. they just say, hey, we'll do something for you that achieves practically nothing in real terms, and after that it's up to some other superadvanced beings (future doctors, future time travellers, Gods, whatever) to take you up and fulfil your wildest dreams. but they won't help you if you don't give us money NOW, so you better pay up! and if they don't do with you as you wanted them to, it's not our fault. hey, we're just the messengers.
also, apparently anyone can invest a dollar at 5% interest, and about 13 generations later their descendants will be, to paraphrase from the site itself, 'BILLIONAIRES with a "B"!' oh boy, i think my great-great-granddaddy put a rupee in a bank 'bout a century ago, i think i'm rich!!
by the way, HK, saying time doesn't exist, that we've just made it up, is about as logical as saying gravity is just a concept invented to explain falling apples and suchlike. sure, it doesn't 'exist' the way the keyboard i'm punching keys on 'exists', you can't pick it up and move it around, but, well...
(August 10th, 2002, 11:46 am)
What you said about the scam being pulled off it is quite true, and I'm surprised there are so many ppl believing it (possibly because if the "time issue). :rolleyes:
However, I generally just ignore utter crap, so I didn't bother with commenting upon that. :-þ
As for the time issue:
I didn't say it exists, just that it doesn't exist in accordance to the general assumption of what time is (and what can be "done" to it).
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in those last two paragraphs, or maybe it was you who glanced over it a bit too quick...? Who knows, but it's not the easiest subject to describe; That I can tell you. ;-)
PS: Notice the "molycular changes" at the end, although it's more correctly changes at the atomical levels.
(August 11th, 2002, 4:20 am)
i'm with you on the 'utter crap' issue, so fine... =D
(August 12th, 2002, 10:07 am)
Yeah, I thought so. ;-)
I reckon you understood what I mean now, or just not interested in thinking? ;-þ
(August 12th, 2002, 11:21 am)
c) both of the above. ;D
Register to post.