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Regarding Submissions

cruise (May 23rd, 2002, 12:03 pm)

It would be nice, I think, that any submissions should be exclusive to Transference.org, at least for the issue they are published in.

Otherwise, there is no reason for people to come here, rather than somewhere else.

As such, submitting already seen work is not recommended, for again, why come here to read things read already?

Just a thought...

Regarding Submissions

Narainsbrain (May 23rd, 2002, 12:57 pm)

just what i was thinking. ...now why didnt i say it then? =)

i guess one would be allowed to post the work elsewhere only after the current issue expires.

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cruise (May 23rd, 2002, 1:04 pm)

Yeah...Most of my stuff will appear on my site after the current issue...but during it, here will be the only place to get the work.

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Nemish (May 23rd, 2002, 4:53 pm)

We should also indicate the submissions are owned by the submitter, copywrited as such. Might need a laywer to write down the "legalese" onto paper.

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Semirrahge (May 25th, 2002, 3:31 am)

My two cents: I agree with everything... Except that I want to put all my previous works up here too - though we don't have to feature any of them.

I might can arrange that, Nemish, I know a friend who's in law school.

And, speaking for myself: If I ever get anything published, I will have a clause in my contract that allows me full distributuion rights - and as such I will leave any stories that I write available for free online. Personally I don't see that it would hurt sales any- who likes to read on a computer? It hurts your eyes, and I miss the tactile turning of pages.

Just a few random neurons firing.

Regarding Submissions

Ben (May 25th, 2002, 3:30 pm)

Personally, I'd like to put some of my old work up here, too, if that's possible.

old work

Narainsbrain (May 25th, 2002, 4:24 pm)

well sure, i guess it's okay to put up older stuff here. and if it's been seen by very few people, we could feature it too, i see nothing wrong with that. but we should have some kind of separate category for writeups not meant for the coming issue, just to organise the site better. one place for current issue submissions, another for old stuff wanting somments. you up for the coding, cruise? =)

old work

Narainsbrain (May 25th, 2002, 4:25 pm)

argh... 'somments' => comments. :X

old work

cruise (May 25th, 2002, 9:33 pm)

I can have an "archvied works" section, I guess, wihtout too much effort...I'll see what I can do... :P

old work

Angelas (June 19th, 2002, 3:55 pm)

hmm....I'd be in a heap of trouble with this policy. All my stuff, and I mean ALL, has been posted previously on Elfwood, Stories.com, Deviantart, and my personal pages..well...maybe I have a few crappy poems I wrote...hmmmmm...

old work

Eldritch (June 19th, 2002, 7:00 pm)

Well, just write new work just for us. Post only teasers on other sites, 'k?

old work

Angelas (June 19th, 2002, 9:01 pm)

First I'll need a little help on HOW to post things here^_^

old work

Ben (June 20th, 2002, 2:59 am)

I thought it was acceptable to post previously-published (so to speak) material here, as long as it's only in the archive.

old work

Narainsbrain (June 20th, 2002, 7:04 am)

it is acceptable in the archive, but that's not the main part of the site. it's just an add-on feature, so any interested readers can check out your older work.

however there should be some brand new work written for the issue to be released, because that's the main attraction - that's what will (hopefully ;) bring the people to the site.

Heh. Oops.

Semirrahge (June 20th, 2002, 8:15 am)

This rule does not apply to ME, of course, -right? :))

Angelas, on the "Members" page, you'll notice a little button in the bottom right-hand corner that says "Submit". Click that. Everything else should be self-explanitory, except for a few things that just occured to me:

1) You have to copy/paste your story into the text box. You can use basic HTML, with bracket syntax (I.E. ] and [ instead of > and <) for formatting, but otherwise just plain TXT.

2) You can't post a story longer than about 20 pages. I did that and it chopped a bunch off. I don't know the exact length yet, but I know 20 is a nice number to use. :)

Ok?

Heh. Oops.

cruise (June 20th, 2002, 12:31 pm)

Actually, that's probably a size limit, rather than length...I've not imposed any limit in the code anywhere...I can only think it's an issue with either browser or PHP with the big textfield size...

Heh. Oops.

Angelas (June 20th, 2002, 3:38 pm)

Thank you for the helpful explanations. Boy, I haven't written anything under 20 pages in my ENTIRE life! Hmm...hopefully that will be fixed. It's gonna be a pain in the buttocks to go through and change EVERY beginning/end tag with ubb brackets~_~

Heh. Oops.

Angelas (June 20th, 2002, 3:40 pm)

Oh yeah...how about posting additional chapters to stories that have been started somewhere else. Do you guys think that's feasible? Only story I'm working on write now is a scifi one called Jade Tears so the newest chapter hasn't been posted anywhere. Can I

Heh. Oops.

Angelas (June 20th, 2002, 3:40 pm)

STUPID KEYBOARD! Can I post it here without the rest?? Then the problem would be with whether it made sense or not@_@

Submission Guidelines

Angelas (June 20th, 2002, 3:41 pm)

One more note. Hehe. What about guidelines for content? Are there any? For example, no pornographic material, extreme violence, blah blah blah yackity smackity...

Submission Guidelines

Angelas (June 20th, 2002, 3:58 pm)

OK OK...I just hafta ask. Is there any way to make the submissions html complient??? PLEASE O PLEASE! If not, I'll just hafta suck it up and throw my lazy ass on the sacrificial alter of UBB code~_~ Unless I sacrifice the formatting of my story which would suck, since half my style involves use of italics and alignment.

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Ben (June 20th, 2002, 6:29 pm)

Well, you could just run a search-and replace operation in Word, if you have it. I think it would be a good idea to enable HTML in submissions though (something or other was decided about this, but, sadly, I've forgotten what).

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Semirrahge (June 21st, 2002, 12:37 am)

As for content - I don't know that we have any official stance on that. The Spera stories contain lesbian interaction and strong language, and Ben submitted something that had a "graphic scientific description of the female genital area". :) Ok, maybe not "graphic", but... :) As far as I am concerned, the only thing that's a no-go is a sex scene. I don't care how much the story is supposed to "need" it, it's really unneeded. But again, this is all my own opinion. And I just realized I missed your "extreme violence" part. :) Heh. For that, I can point proudly to my own current project, which everyone who reads it finds amazingly gory.

So there you have it, and Cruise, I think we have a valid point raised.

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Eldritch (June 21st, 2002, 1:35 am)

Violence is certainly OK. No story is REALLY good without it.

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Ben (June 21st, 2002, 2:16 am)

Sex scenes. Hmm. I think those would have to be evaluated individually; if it's really necessary for the story, and it's not overly graphic, I see no reason to exclude it. (Sex scenes aren't that common in SF, anyway; I don't forsee it being much of an issue.)

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Narainsbrain (June 21st, 2002, 5:40 am)

presumably, we will have responsible members who will manage to evade graphic detailing of sexual encounters and present any such matters in a sensibly non-objectionable manner. but still, no scifi story i've come across had any conceivable necessity for a sex scene. i don't see a real need for guidelines, 'cause the stories go through so much review and comments before publication that anything particularly nasty would be nipped in the bud, so to speak.

about posting episodes of series, well, you can put the older parts into your oeuvre and link to that from the story description, so i think that would make sense. the problem then is whether it's proper to leave the other places you've posted at with just a teaser to the next part. it would draw in more traffic to us, though. =)

btw, there's an edit feature on the posts, so if you srewed up while posting or had afterthoughts, you can go back and do it right, instead of posting again and cursing. ;)

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cruise (June 21st, 2002, 9:22 am)

Post stuff in the members area, and we'll elt you know what we think :P That should be all the guidlines you need.

The general consensus regarding formatting in stories was that stories really shouldn't require it...you have underline, italic and bold. Past that, text should be sufficient. Several of us were wary of stories that depended on specific layouts and such...it should be all about the story.

As ben said...a simple search and replace should handle everything you need :P

And yeah, stick the previous Jade Tear stories in your oeuvre (damn...that sounds sooooooooooooo wrong :P), and have the latest chapter as your submission :P

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Angelas (June 21st, 2002, 3:41 pm)

Hmm..well..my only qualm with formatting is that I use Italics for thoughts with no lead in for saying that it is a thought. so can you see the confusion that could follow from that? Anwyas..if need be..I'll just post me stuff and see what is too much and what is not. I'm not a sex scene feind or anything, let's just say I manage to glaze over a couple parts. Cruise knows what I mean. Ah well...lemme get to running that search and replace thing.

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Ben (June 21st, 2002, 8:35 pm)

Italics is supported -- just use brackets for the italics tags instead of greater and less than signs.

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Angelas (June 21st, 2002, 9:39 pm)

Hmm..now that we've got the formatting stuff out of the way. All I see in the members area is a 'submit' button. How do I post to the oevre and how do I post to the New area? I don't see any clear designation between which areas I'm posting in. OR is that sorted out later by a moderator?

to the oeuvre

Narainsbrain (June 22nd, 2002, 4:29 am)

you just submit the thing to the members area. by default it appears in the list of new submissions (i guess that's what you mean by New area) and since it's new, it's highlighted, no less =). you can click the archive link next to it if you want to put it into the oeuvre.

to the oeuvre

Angelas (June 23rd, 2002, 5:31 am)

allo again, it's the new village idiot navigating the site once more! There is no archive link as far as I can see@_@

Unless that shows up AFTER you upload it. Hmm...sorta a weird type of thing. You guys really should work up a tutorial for new people like me, especially if you want the site to grow more. I definitely suggest a FAQ area for new members and a designation between submitting into the archive and the new stuff. As well as submission guidelines if you plan to have any. Most people don't write sex scenes, but trust me there are those who do so it's good to have that made clear in a Guidelines page of some sort so future members will know. This probably belongs on the design forum@_@.

to the oeuvre

Eldritch (June 23rd, 2002, 12:31 pm)

We don't plan on getting too many new members. BUt anyway, that's a good idea, Specially for each issue's guest writers.

to the oeuvre

cruise (June 23rd, 2002, 10:10 pm)

yeah, upload, then archive :P

I had a thouhgt...it was recommended that we don't allow fan-fiction type stuff...and I suspect that your shadowrun based Jade Tears would fall under that...have it in your archive, by all means, but I think you'll have to come up with something else for each issue, I'm afraid...

to the oeuvre

Angelas (June 24th, 2002, 1:02 am)

hmm....another question..are issues divided by month? Hehe..yeah..I guess I can't just go with rpg INSPIRED stuff now could I? Ah well..for now I'll just work on getting my original fantasy stuff up. I've written a helluva lot of fanfiction or rpg inspired stuff all the way from dragonball z to vampire the masquerade, and then Shadowrun. I guess an easier question would be...is fanfiction considered story using copyrighted characters made by someone else..or original characters based in an existing world..or are they the same? Many of my stories are all original chars, but based in an rpg inspired world. Hmm..I'm all for posting Jade Tears..I think it's stemmed from Shadowrun and gone to being more of an original work, especially now that I've began tweeking the new chapters that haven't been published yet. Welp..guess we'll hafta see what majority thinks on this site. If not, I'll just hafta keep my library small here.

to the oeuvre

Angelas (June 24th, 2002, 3:57 am)

YUP finally got something posted! Here's a link for ya'll. My neverending fantasy epic.

www.transference.org/users/view.php?ID=15

*edit* it does now... :P

to the oeuvre

Angelas (June 24th, 2002, 3:59 am)

well..maybe that link doesn't work so well..mmm..AH HELL just click on my name 'Angelas' and it'll take you to that oevre, ovary, loeuvre thing.

to the oeuvre

cruise (June 24th, 2002, 9:42 am)

Having fanfiction in your /archive/ isn't a problem. It's just the actual submissions for each issue that need to be completely original work.

fan fiction

Narainsbrain (June 24th, 2002, 11:39 am)

yep, that's our policy. i think angelas also wanted it defined what exactly is fan fiction and what isn't. using existing characters is definitely out for submissions, but i guess original characters in an existing world is original enough for me. but it's up for discussion (that's what the forum is here for anyway =).

fan fiction

cruise (June 24th, 2002, 12:21 pm)

I'd prefer totally original...I agree it's hard to tell that Jade Tears is written in the usual Shadowrun tech, but to someone like me who's played, it is noticeable.

fan fiction

Angelas (June 24th, 2002, 3:34 pm)

Alrighty, I'll just stick that stuff in my oeuvre and post it on Deviantart, stories.com, and fanfiction.net, like I normally do. More publicity for me^_^ Yeah..I went back through and added the coloquialisms (slag, drek, frag) AFTER I wrote it becuase I wrote it in plain english...haha. One complaint about the oeuvre. Nothing shows up on the submissions list once you move it over, so how will anyone know you've put anything up unless you do a plug on the forums? That gets old after awhile. I think those submissions in the oeuvre should show up on the list but have something marking them as oeuvre entries so all the literature can be exposed somehow. I've done a lot of bitching on the forums, hopefully it's helpful bitching^_^

Organizing Submissions

Angelas (June 24th, 2002, 3:37 pm)

Ooooo..Or maybe even have TWO lists showing up on the new entries board. One list showing original NEW ISSUE SUBMISSIONS and the one at the bottom showing the OEUVRE SUBMISSIONS.

Organizing Submissions

cruise (June 24th, 2002, 4:08 pm)

Possibly...it was mainly designed for people who want to store stuff they did befoe they joined...a useful repository. Once we have actual users for the sote, you'll get lots of hits to the ouerve...hopefully :P

Ah, finally!

Semirrahge (June 25th, 2002, 3:23 am)

At last someone besides me wants easy access to the Oeuvre! Me, I want comment and view trackers in my Oeuvre, as well as submission notification. How this is to be done I have not thought of yet, but it's something I really want.

So Cruise and Narain - how 'bout it?

well then...

Narainsbrain (June 25th, 2002, 5:01 am)

maybe we could have an œuvres section, that can be sorted by author or date submitted, and gives all the details and new comments notification like the members section.

but semi, adding new features is not my department. i just do css =)

gah

cruise (June 25th, 2002, 7:28 am)

I have view tracking. I can do view tracking. I can do new comment tracking for free too.

But the oeurve was never intended to be a major part of the site...the site is about the issues, plain and simple. I added the ability to add older stuff to it, to show what the author did before they joined Transference. Anything else it'd be nice to think would end up in an issue somewhere. Which means that archiving stories should be a one off...you submit your back-dated stuff, archive, and done...you need never archive stuff again. Anything that appears in the issues will turn up in the oeurve automatically, so you don't have to worry about that.

I can see the reasoning behind the views/comments thing, yes, but past that...seems like too much effort ad time spent on something that will never be used again...

Hmm.

Semirrahge (June 25th, 2002, 4:54 pm)

I don't write fast enough to justify that. I can't put out stories or even revisions fast enough to put anything into an issue. I was envisioning this site being an all-in-one replacement for DA, where I could point friends to my page and let them read and comment on my stories. I did not realize this thing was purely designed to complement the 'zine.

Hmm.

Hmm.

Angelas (June 25th, 2002, 6:07 pm)

Agreed...I thought this would be a place to share. But it's a bit hard to share stories when no one will see it (easily anyways) They hafta sift through the forums to find a plug for my oeuvre. It's a bit hard for me to put anything in the current issue seeing as how most of my stuff is not what belongs in there. Most of my stuff has been put on other sites, or is considered fanfiction. Maybe this case is individual to me and I'm just not an ideal author for this site^_^ I understand totally that you guys want to draw in more people for the site by having exclusive material. THEN it comes down to WHY people would come to this site unless the authors here are famous or they have dedicated fans. And once the readers get here, will they easily be able to locate the material by their favorite authors. I dunno , I'm just kickin around the first thoughts that come into my head.

My views.

Semirrahge (June 26th, 2002, 4:25 am)

As you all may know already, these are my personal views and I naturally feel very strongly about them. If you disagree or choose to ignore them, or vocalize the fact that you feel they suck, my self-esteem may go off and hide in a dark corner and have a good cry.

Just so you know. :)

When I first heard about TSFE from whoever it was that told me about it, I was really hyped. I thought that I could finally have a place where I could get both publicity and legitimate criticism (no more of this "dude u r cool! gj!" trash that deviants put out by the megabyte), as well as a place where I could send my friends for the finding of excellent stories after they read mine (those being more excellent, of course).

Now though, I see that this site, first and foremost, really revolves around the 'zine. It's not a place to archive stories I or others have written, but a place to get new stories emailed out to billions of readers, whereupon those stories are stuffed into a dark and mysterious place called the Oeuvre and forgotten.

Cruise does not need this site to hold his stories because he has a personal website. I, along with several others, have no such place to call my own.

I envisioned a database that I could search or browse whenever I got the urge to read something good or new. A place where I could vote on other works and assist the author in reaching the amazing popularity of my own works. A place where I could discuss my masterworks with whomever left comments; in short, I saw a DeviantArt for writers.

Instead I see a magazine.

Maybe it's just me, but I for one am less keen about getting a 'zine out than I am about bettering my already fabulous skillz. I had wondered why my old stories were frowned upon, and now I see. I apologize for misunderstanding everyone.

I must say, too, that if TSFE is strictly for new and fabulous works published regularily, then this is not the place for me. Sign me up for the 'zine, definately, and maybe feature me as a guest writer every so often, but I don't wish to burden the scope of this site under terrific amounts of hacky and unfinished texts.

I understand that this all sounds melodramatic and snotnosed, but I don't mean it like that. I admit my ego needs pruning, but I've never knowingly interfered with someone's goals. Consider me a humble egotist.

:)

have to think about that...

Narainsbrain (June 26th, 2002, 5:13 am)

man, this thing is getting complicated.

btw, the oeuvre isn't hard to find, one just has to click on your name to get there.

okay, here's how i see it. the issues are the main, essential, part of the site. the oeuvre is also important (because two people support it now -- it was easy to ignore semi, but with angelas too, it'll be hard =p). so we could give the oeuvre the features of the main members page, so it doesn't look like a plain and simple list of links, and you two can shove all your old stuff in there and give your pals from elsewhere links to your member pages, just like dA. and probably, if you have a submission in the issue, there'll be a link there to 'other stories by angelas', so that shouldn't be a problem.

if you want us members to read the stories in the oeuvre, well, there isn't point in us giving you feedback unless you're going to work on the story, and anything you're working on would preferably go into an issue, so you might as well put it into the members section anyway.

voila, problem solved by extrapolation into incomprehensibility. =D

Ignore me, will you?

Semirrahge (June 26th, 2002, 4:07 pm)

I'll show you! I'll show you all!! muuhwhaahahahhhaahaaaaa!

My thing is that my old writings (for the most part, with few exceptions - like Ocean Wild), are still in revisionary mode. I eventually intend to finish or evolve Kaelgeon and Stormwinds, to name a few at random, into coherent entities.

And, in the case of Cruise, what happens when you are working on more than one project simultaneously? Or, like me, when I stop working on a project and start a new one - that old project is still in progress. I value feedback on that as much as I do on current and perhaps more valid works.

That's my $5 worth.

Hmm...understood

Angelas (June 27th, 2002, 2:37 am)

It's all well and good with the zine. I was just under the wrong impression about what the site was meant for before I joined. Even if I don't get new stuff out in time for the zine, I'll just put stuff up in the oevre and share stuff on the forums. Trade feedback and whatnot. I love feedback even if I don't get anything in the zine. So as long as you guys don't mind a lurker like me around the forums and posting crap in the oeuvre and rough draft sections, I'll stay. I especially like the truthfullness of the feedback I have recieved here. Most sites all I get is "It was good. I liked it" with no help whatsoever in the shitty parts of my stories, and I know there are shitty ones, ESPECIALLY in my older stuff like The Scar. You guys seem to know your stuff, grammar wise AND in the process of analyzing a story. I especially appreciate Cruise and Semirahhge's honest and helpful commentary. I too suffer from switching from project to project, and when you throw in the fact that I'm also an artist, I'm switching from writing to drawing to website designing and round n round again, it's really hard to get things done. There's my excuse for being half-assed^_^

I'll not ask you guys to reorder the site if you don't want to. I am just offering my 2 cents as any member needs to if they see something that could use improvement. Hopefully I'm not annoying everyone too much@_@

OH YES! **is posting plugs everywhere** I just put up the first part of what I consider my best fantasy piece in my oeuvre, The Circle and the Dance. Don't worry, Semi, I learned from my mistakes made in The Scar and improved upon it greatly. Enjoy~!

i hope people realise that i don't mean half of what i say...

Narainsbrain (June 27th, 2002, 5:55 am)

...at least, not the ribbing. it's all in jest. i think semi knows that, but doesn't hurt to make sure. ;)

anyway, hmm... the dAesqueness means a lot to you guys. it would to me too, if i had a lot of written work i wanted to show off to everybody. *sniff* [feels inferior]

[quickly snaps out of it] okay then, i guess we should do something about this. but what exactly do you feel should be done? a dA for writers... but dA works because people keep submitting new stuff - the reason devWatch exists. we are obviously not going to be able to do that.

so basically, as far as i can tell (and you'll correct me if i'm wrong), you want more priority and more traffic to your older work... this is going to take some thought and some reorganisation. i can't really think of how better to do this, so i guess you'll have to provide some concrete ideas. and on the whole, it's really da main man cruise's decision.

*deep breath*

cruise (June 27th, 2002, 10:52 am)

OK, so it seems like a lot of this discussion is because people were expecting two different things from the site.

The original idea pitched to me was of a 'zine for putting out stories. That is how I built the site, therefore.

If that isn't what is wanted, then we'll have to do a major rethink.

Or, at least, make the Oeuvre more prominent, so you can use it like DA, in addition to pushing out stories for each issue....

hmmm...

"Hang on lads, I've got an idea..."

*deep breath*

Angelas (June 27th, 2002, 2:30 pm)

That would be my teeny suggestion for the site. Underneath the Members listing of current zine submissions, there could be a 2nd listing of Oevre submissions for people to see too. Now, I want it to be clear, you guys don't hafta redesign the site for just a minority. If I'm in a small minority, I'll just continue using DA for my submissions and the oeuvre for minor sharing and archiving. And maybe I'll get something new done on a whim and have it in the zine^_^

Also, another thing. **points up to the main menu bar** It'd be even greater if we could get at least the fiction section up. That way there's a page for people to browse the fiction who are not members. On this fiction page there could BEEE Zine entries, Featured Entries, and Archived Entries. Again I'm posting on the wrong topic most likely, but I'm on a roll so ah well. And I don't know if you guys know, but when you type the address www.transference.org, there is nothing but an empty page that says Coming Soon. I guess that'll open up after the main areas are finished, am I right? I'm just curious to know. Unless we're keeping this site as a private community.

*deep breath*

Eldritch (June 28th, 2002, 1:09 am)

Yes. The main page will be useable when we go live, that is, when we release the first issue of the 'zine.

*deep breath*

Semirrahge (June 28th, 2002, 2:11 am)

Iyah... Oncet we go public, you can stop this rigmarole of havin' t' type in the ezack address. Furthermore, y'all won't hafta use the icky "update" link to refresh your timstamp and reset all them new message counters.

- cut -

Without spending too much of my valuable brain cycles, I think Angelas' idea is pretty good. However, I'm under the impression (did anyone ever realize that that's a metaphor?) that featured works are the same as 'zine works - concievably we won't be able to put all new submissions into the zine, especially if they aren't original or good enough. I think we should have a "Newest Submissions" (submissions are bumped down by date, or whenever the list reaches a certain size), a "Featured Submissions" and a "Archived Submissions" area. Personally I'm of the opinion that ALL submissions should go into the Archive as soon as the are submitted, and merely linked to for the other areas. This enables better browsing of all submissions and searching of the same.

On the Fiction page proper, we'd have a "Featured" box, then below that a "Recent" box. Then, a linkbutton for "All Submissions" which leads to a page that asks us how we want the info presented: A simple browse, with sort options (Author, Date, Views, Classification), or a search, with perhaps the same options plus a text string (title, text body). Now, we'd probably have to have this eventually, so I don't really see that it's that big a deal to expand it a bit.

Perhaps we could even have some way of denoting a pre/non-TSFE submission. Also, we might could store everything in the "Archives", including Tutorials, Reviews, and Editorials, and include those in the search/browse options.

Also, I don't know how this site runs, so please explain to me if this is not as simple a matter as I think it is. :(

*deep breath*

Angelas (June 28th, 2002, 3:24 am)

hm...axe the Featured thing, it's easier just to do 'new submissions' at the top. And then have the archive submissions on the bottom of the page on the Fiction main area listed chronologically with the newest archive submissions at the top. Heh..hopefully we're not askin for the impoosible@_@

ok...

cruise (June 28th, 2002, 10:29 am)

The various "empty" links across the top will be populated by each issue...once we publish an issue, then you'll have content.

Stuff sitting in the members section shouldn't be available to non-members, because otherwise they'll already have read all the submissions for an issue :P

I can easily add a section to each of fiction/editorial/etc. for recent oeuvre submissions to each of those...ie, stuff in people's archive that isn't part of an issue. That neatly solves a lot of the problems, really...you can submit what you want to the members section, leave it around to get critiqued and tweaked, then either put it into an issue or simply archive it straight if deemed not suitable or whatever.

Effectively your ouevre section will work like DA, with optional trusted editing before release, and each "issue" would be the collected best from our writers, for special attention. A combination of 'zine and gallery.

Is this good? Or have people spiked my water with crack again?

Does sound good

Semirrahge (June 29th, 2002, 3:38 am)

New Oeuvre submissions as well as new submissions (not new, really - just transferred from the "Members-Only" area) listed in chronological order is good. The new Oeuvre function is good. The only thing not touched is searching the site. How you gonna go 'bout doin' that?

outsource?

Ben (July 1st, 2002, 2:54 am)

Atomz.com offers a good free search engine (at least, they used to; I haven't check back there in a year or so).

outsource?

cruise (July 1st, 2002, 11:01 am)

Searching I'll get around to when we have enough to search for :P

Admittedly at the rate of current submissions, that's yesterday, but I actually have work to do (like, paying work) for a change, so you'll have to wait for a bit :D

Classifications?

Angelas (July 5th, 2002, 3:15 am)

Hey I noticed something while uploading a new submission, the classifications are...gone? I went back and rechecked the genre boxes and reuploaded, but still no go. I think there might be a glitch in the code. I just saw the fiction area btw. Awesome job! That's exactly what I had in mind! I am very pleased**purrrrs** Good luck with your job Cruise! I used to have a job too as an English tutor at West GA, but alas, I will not have that job again till next semester~_~ OO..but then I'll be an English tutor AAAANd a Webpage designer! YEEHAW!

Classifications?

Narainsbrain (July 5th, 2002, 7:00 am)

the classifications are still there. i think they may have been down temporarily while cruise was revamping the upload page.

the fiction/review/etc. areas are really cool. but there's a bug - the classifications don't show up, and ubb tags don't seem to work in oeuvre submissions. and it would be great if the oeuvre on user pages and the fiction area had the same format as the members section, meaning date submitted and number of comments as well as new comment highlighting.

of course, this can wait until you finish your real job...

btw, i keep getting a "Warning: The argument to array_sum() should be an array in /usr/www/users/tranorg/members/upload.php on line 14" when editing an oeuvre submission today.

Classifications?

cruise (July 5th, 2002, 10:48 am)

I'll look at the classifications thing...must have broken something when I changed the formtting...

The array_sum error I'll fix sometime...it doesn't mean anything except you didn't specify any classifications for that story...nothing is actually "broken"...

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