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Narainsbrain (May 25th, 2002, 5:39 pm)

1. what's with the asterisk at the right of the forums? it's on all of them, even ones with no posts, so i really dont get the idea.

2. i think maybe the textboxes should be bigger, considering the size of posts in the feedback forum. and how about putting the Post: text into a h1?

3. i thought feedback was what the submission area was for. maybe you could rename the feedback forum to Idea Center or something like that, since that looks like what it's shaping up to be anyway.

did i sound at all rude back there? sorry, im an incorrigible critic and all that, please dont mind.. =)

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cruise (May 25th, 2002, 9:36 pm)

1) Asterisks are New Posts...go to your "settings" page, and click on "update" next to the last visit page...they'll all go away...until someone posts somethign new...once the site opens properly, the index.php will update that automatically...

2) ok, not a problem...I just used your sizes you originally sent me :P

3) Feedback was intended for non-members...people who just come to the site but want to start you say, members have their own area for Feedback.

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Ben (May 26th, 2002, 4:02 am)

Hmm -- so did I post that in the right place? Still not quite clear on that. :) (Oh, and I agree about the textboxes.)

tiny textboxes

Narainsbrain (May 26th, 2002, 9:09 am)

i know, i was just trying to fit the whole page into one screen so i could take a nice screenshot... so i made the textboxes tiny.

ironically i never did send you the screenshot. =)

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Hellkeepa (June 8th, 2002, 7:01 pm)


I was just wondering if you could have made it so that we could see who has posted last in a thread/forum? I use this all the time in other fora to identify the threads which has recived new postings, and I know it's useful in that respect. Maybe more useful than just seeing the date, as it's very dependant upon where one is in the world (plus it's very hard to remember date&time when you posted last). ;-)

I'll probably give more feedback later, when I remember it all. :-D

Happy fraggin'!

Oh, just noticed

Hellkeepa (June 8th, 2002, 7:03 pm)


The identing of the first line is quite annoying, especially when the first lines in every paragraph isn't idented the same way....

Could you do something about this?

Happy fraggin'!

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Narainsbrain (June 10th, 2002, 7:04 am)

what, the asterisks not good enough for ya? =) somehow i get the feeling you havent read cruise's reply, the second post here. besides, we dont really have much space for another column in the forum list =)

which reminds me, the column holding the asterisk should be thinner, and a little horizontal padding in the cells wouldnt hurt.

the indenting is annoying? i dont think so. i think it looks more literary, which is why only the prose parts, ie the submissions, have it.

Asterisk are good, but...

Hellkeepa (June 15th, 2002, 4:30 am)


The asterisks are good, but they have a tendency to be there even if I've looked at the post.

Besides, I've always found it very informal (for some strange reason) to see the name of the person who posted last. Perhaps it's because I tend to browse from a whole array of different PC's during the days , and I use the names of the poster to see if I've read it before.

As for lack of space: Stick it under the time of the post, should be enough space there.

Anyway, it was a mere suggestion, nothing really important...

Happy fraggin'!

good point

Narainsbrain (June 15th, 2002, 8:54 am)

the name with the date... that would work. it would also be very consistent and logical, 'cause it would be just like the line before the posts here.

i have an idea to get rid of the asterisks altogether, and give the new fora some highlighting or something under css. that should free up some space.


btw, are you sure you update from your settings page after every session?


Hellkeepa (June 15th, 2002, 4:58 pm)


Glad to see that you're understanding, and agreeing to, my points, guess it wasn't a total waste after all. :-D

It may also be an idea to do what you said, I'm sure there's a better use for the space. ;-)

Yes, I'm updating the profile, but since I'm changing computers a lot it doesn't do much for me. :-( For example were all the fora marked as unread just now, simply because I'm using a new PC now.

Besides, since the threads aren't individually marked as read all new posts will continue to be marked as new until I update the profile, and make all posts read. I think you understand what I'm trying to say..?

Happy fraggin'!

yeah, i get you

Narainsbrain (June 16th, 2002, 5:59 am)

i just use one computer so i dont have your problem :p

what you said would be more efficient, but i think it would need a lot of difficult coding... and that's cruise's department. let's see what he has to say on this.

yeah, i get you

cruise (June 16th, 2002, 8:39 am)

I use at least two, and using the "update" in the profile when I leave works fine...

You can also use [] as an entrance page, which will update the last visit time also...I use the two in combination.

So that means...

Hellkeepa (June 16th, 2002, 10:19 pm)


So that means that I have to the temp page in order to update the date in my cookie? That is what my "problem" is atm, even if I've updated the date on the profile the system checks it against the cookie (apparently), and thus marks all "new" threads (for the current PC) as unread even if I've read them on another.

Quite confusing to see threads marked as unread, even if the last post date is well older than the date & time in my "Settings" page.. :-/

Have I understood your advice correctly?

Happy fraggin'!

So that means...

cruise (June 17th, 2002, 9:12 am)

I think so...

If you hit the "update" link when you've read everything, and then use temp.php as your entry page on another computer, the "new" markers should be accurate...think of the "update" link as a "Mark all Forums read" option, like on the N~@ fora...

Just tested it, and..

Hellkeepa (June 17th, 2002, 4:16 pm)


I just tested it and it seems as we're understading eachother here, however strange that may sound.. ;-p

In other words it looks like the temp.php page updates the cookie with the "last visit" time stored in the database, and thus makes sure the script only marks the correct threads as "undread".

However, this seems quite inefficient to me, why not just use the value from the database instead? That is if the user is logged in, and perhaps use cookies to set the threads only for the visitors, or...? Anyway, I don't know how you scripted this, so I'm basicly feeling my way forth, and thus I'm probably inaccurate in my assumptions.. :rolleyes:

I'll try this when I get home as well, then we'll see if really does what I hope it does. ;-)

PS: Yes, I do press the "Update" button before logging off the site. :-)

Happy fraggin'!

Just tested it, and..

cruise (June 17th, 2002, 5:32 pm)

It's a sort of two-pass system, because I can't tell when someone stops looking at the site wiht any reliability.

The cookie is the lastvisit time that's used by the scripts for determining when something is new or not.

The DB entry is the time you logged in /this/ time.

temp.php gets that value, which presuming you use temp.php as your entry page, will be the time you last visited (ie, the time before this one that you viewd temp.php) then sets the cookie to that value, and sets the DB entry to the current value, ready for next time.

The update link in the settings page sets both cookie and DB entry to the current value, casuing an instant update.

Is that any clearer?

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